Francis Tosses a Rope of Sand to the Faithful

Audience with Pope Francis

CLAR, 06.06.13

Excerpts from the Rorate Cæli:

1. Francis: “Open the doors… Open the doors!”

They will make mistakes, they will make a blunder [meter la pata], this will pass! Perhaps even a letter of the Congregation for the Doctrine (of the Faith) will arrive for you, telling you that you said such or such thing… But do not worry. Explain whatever you have to explain, but move forward… Open the doors, do something there where life calls for it. I would rather have a Church that makes mistakes for doing something than one that gets sick for being closed up…

Judge Bartley: A letter from the Congregation is not a source for “worry”. Don’t worry,  be happy.

2. Francis: It is necessary to shake things up [flip things over, lit. dar vuelta (a) la tortilla]. It is not news that an old man dies of cold in Ottaviano [Rorate note: referring to the surroundings of via Ottaviano and the Ottaviano Rome Metro station, near the Vatican], or that there be so many children with no education, or hungry, I think of Argentina…On the other hand, the main stock exchanges go up or down 3 points, and this is a world event. One must shake things up! This cannot be. Computers are not made in the image and likeness of God; they are an instrument, yes, but nothing more. Money is not image and likeness of God. Only the person is image and likeness of God. It is necessary to flip it over. This is the gospel.

Judge Bartley: Millions of people, especially elderly, rely on investments for their survival. More so now than ever, as Social Security tanks.

3. Francis: It is necessary to go to the causes, to the roots. Abortion is bad, but that is clear. But behind the approval of this law, what interests are behind it… they are at times the conditions posed by the great organizations to support with money, you know that? It is necessary to go to the causes, we cannot remain only in the symptoms. Do not be afraid to denounce… you will suffer, you will have problems, but do not be afraid to denounce, that is the prophecy of religious life…

Judge Bartley: “Abortion is bad, but . . . ” what? One of the greatest understatements of all time. A callousness toward murder.

4.  Francis: I share with you two concerns. One is the Pelagian current that there is in the Church at this moment. There are some restorationist groups. I know some, it fell upon me to receive them in Buenos Aires. And one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council… One feels in 1940… An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: “Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries.” Why don’t they say, ‘we pray for you, we ask…’, but this thing of counting… And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through – not you, because you are not old – to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today…

Judge Bartley: As has been said at Rorate Cæli, insulting and I would added, demeaning to Our Lady. And Pelagianism is the total denial of “the supernatural order and the necessity of grace for salvation. (From Fr. Hardon’s Dictionary.)

4a. Francis: Those Pantheisms… Both are elite currents, but this one is of a more educated elite… I heard of a superior general that prompted the sisters of her congregation to not pray in the morning, but to spiritually bathe in the cosmos, things like that… They concern me because they ignore the incarnation!

Judge Bartley: Perhaps the only valid statement in his jeremiad against Holy Mother Church.

5. Francis: The gospel is not the old rule, nor this Pantheism. If you look at the periphery; the destitute… the drug addicts! The traffic of people… This is the gospel. The poor are the gospel…

Judge Bartley: The poor are not the Gospel. They are the poor, to be helped by the charity of the Church.

6. Francis: But there also is a stream of corruption, there is that as well, it is true… The “gay lobby” is mentioned, and it is true, it is there… We need to see what we can do…

Judge Bartley: If there is corruption, it must be eradicated. And, along with it, the “gay lobby”.

7. Francis: I am very disorganized . . . .

Judge Bartley: Disorganisation is the last thing the Church needs. If you can’t correct yourself, resign.

8. Francis: There is something that concerns me, even though I do not know now to understand it. There are religious congregations, very, very tiny groups, a few persons, very old people… They have no vocations, what do I know, the Holy Spirit do not want them to go on, perhaps they have already fulfilled their mission in the Church, I do not know… But there they are, clinging to their buildings, clinging to money… I do not know why this happens, I do not know how to understand it. But I ask you to be concerned with these groups… The management of money… is something that needs to be reflected upon.

Judge Bartley: How do we reflect on the management of a parish’s money? And only the very old are the often the most loyal to the Magisterium. The statement is the most defamatory in the whole horatory, if one can rightly call it that.

9. Francis: I know there are some who have a different idea of communion, but… Talk, speak with them, tell them…

Judge Bartley: And what should we say to them? Let’s have peanut butter and jelly communion?

Is there anything left in Francis of the Good, the True, the One, and the Beautiful?

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